I got into an argument today on the Internet with a religious person (they blocked me before they ever fully explained their religion saying "no im not referring to judeo christian god, im referring to god, the one, it, THE ALL.") over moral relativism (me) vs. absolute morality (him). Well, not much of an argument after he blocked me, the technological equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "neener neener," when I cordially and humbly laid out, point by point, why he was incorrect about Nietzschean philosophy (this whole thing started over a Nietzsche picture I had on my profile). But the real disheartening thing is where he apparently got his misinformed view of morality... I didn't even get a chance to answer his profound philosophical questions!
First thing is that he literally copied, word for word, his "argument" from the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry website. No source cited, nothing... Thus, his immoral hubris already begins to emerge. Because, you know, not citing sources is objectively evil....
Secondly, he seems to think that his "logic" against moral relativism is something more than a silly word game prefaced by loaded, self-serving questions with the occasional connotation of "truth" thrown in for good measure.
Which gets me to the point. This sort of propaganda is the stuff that people with agendas for conversion and religious domination spew constantly at the doors of innocent people who are so overwhelmed by this "feat of logic" that they end up scratching their heads in confusion and tensely thinking "Hey! Maybe ya got something there!" The people who do not know a strawman from a strawman and might be just teetering on the edge of their agnosticism. And I am not being hyperbolic here... Missionaries have been known to purposefully seek out and lie to people that they view as in need of salvation because of their "confusion." This propaganda is a farce to the science of formal logic and the philosophies of morality. A cold, hard list of how tautologies and outright fallacy can take a hold on those who either know no better, or who are easily swayed by what seems to be, on its face, axiomatic "proofs."
But, all reality aside, lets say that there is a stone-solid objective morality, the fact still remains that we needn't god for us to know it. And the world would certainly be a lot more boring.
Congratulations CARM, you either set formal logic back four hundred years, or you solved all of our moral problems.
As for me, I think I'll steal the bread if I am starving.
10 January 2009
All morality is objective... wha?
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